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Shaffi Mather: A new way to fight corruption

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25 Responses to “Shaffi Mather: A new way to fight corruption”

  1. You just know that this guy has gotten his fair share of bribes and kick backs. One doesn’t get rich without walking the shady line.

  2. @DoltMasher

    That is EXACTLY what happens in a Statist society, except the state shoots me dead instead of you.

    How can I defend myself against you and your gun? With me and my gun.

    How can I defend myself against a state monopoly that will shoot me for trying to obtain a gun on my own terms? I can’t. I’m dead for sure.

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  4. It just goes to show you can’t be too careful.

  5. @OpineTime

    You are not a pain. I like the discussion.

    Imagine you lived across the street. You painted YOUR house a color I didn’t like. I hire painters to change the color of your house. You come out to protest and I shoot you dead.

    An anarchist society could not hold me accoutable for my action.

    I agree with your disdain for Statism. governement must exist only as a mechanism for common defense and a reasonable means of arbitrating disputes. That’s it.

    Ridiculous?

  6. @hutchings000

    I do not have enough information to give you a definite answer, but…

    “It is the monetary common denominator that provides the basis for an input-output calculus, a capital-income calculus that is crucial to the allocation of scarce resources. This calculus is necessary because the scarcity of means requires the careful comparison of costs and benefits, of inflows and outflows in the production process.”

    -Austrian Economics

  7. @Nogard229
    Are resources not mis-allocated in the current system?

  8. makes me sick when I see Al Gore everytime i watch a ted video

  9. @hutchings000

    If you don’t have an exchange medium, then resources will be mis-allocated.

  10. @DoltMasher I don’t mean to be a pain, but you said…

    “Anarchy can only lead to an environment where the pact group (as ratholin mentioned) with the most force dictates social conduct.”

    That is EXACTLY the type of environment Statism or government creates.

    How can Anarchy create the same EXACT environment as Statism?

    It’s like saying “Being sober makes you an addict.”

    It’s a really ridiculous argument.

  11. @Nogard229
    I wonder if in some way, the system does have a medium of “exchange” however, the individuals involved are not exchanging with other individuals, they are exchanging resources with the system itself. If I build a robotic farm. The farm produces food at minimal labor cost, that “revenu” resource, is then consumed by the public. In turn, the resources become a medium of sorts.

    It would require more speculation though. Not enough room in youtube comments :)

  12. @hutchings000

    Sorry man, but that society wouldn’t work IMO.

    No exchange medium = failure.

  13. @Nogard229
    If the system is set up properly, then you wouldn’t require a medium of exchange. Food, water, shelter, the essentials get covered first. Education, access to certain facilities. Travel, community, performing arts, science technology. They all stem from the principal idea that everyone is equally entitled to all things. Creating a culture that is functional while working together, instead of against each other. Like community, rather than competitors. (Ants…poor analogy)

  14. Ha, I got it at 4 minutes..

  15. @hutchings000
    Is there a medium used for exchange, money?

  16. The computer would allocate materials based on availability of those materials. If, and, then, etc. If there is a need for more housing in X city, then the materials are allocated. Based on material availability, production capacity, and population. There is probably a lot more to it. But I think you can see what I mean.
    :) Anything can be worked out if you work through it.

  17. Moving talk but after 8min i got transfixed on the vest he has under his shirt.

  18. @TalladegaTom

    I agree with your comment about Fresco. Despite my affection for his vision there are serious problems with enacting the goals of the Venus Project.

    Fresco stops short when challenged with serious critique in stating something along the lines of ‘the transition will be tough’.

    Who programs the computer that will dictate resource allocation? By what standard? What happens when someone can’t take a private cruise when they want because the computer has dictated otherwise?

  19. God bless this man…

  20. @robzrob

    What is the means of dispute resolution in an anarchist society? Very reasonable people often require an arbiter at some point to resolve a dispute when rational negotiation fails.

    What happens when someone decides to invoke physical force to settle a dispute? Is this acceptable? If not, what entity stops hostility and by what authority?

    Anarchy can only lead to an environment where the pact group (as ratholin mentioned) with the most force dictates social conduct.

  21. Oh, dunno.
    I applaud Shaffi for his efforts and he is on the right track, but has yet to fully figure it out.
    I think Jacques Fresco has thought this subject out much further and deeper to a more meaningful and civilized solution.

  22. thedeeliciousplum on December 22nd, 2009 at 5:03 am

    true…your shared understandings are well welcomed. Best wishes :D

  23. while i don’t disagree with your statement out of hand, I would mention that the value of life is represented differently around the globe by people & governance.
    for example, massacres in countries of Africa cause out-cry in 1st world regions - myself included - but is viewed & treated by local governance as a resource & population control issue.
    i think if in place of reasonable you might use humane I’d agree wholeheartedly - & i’m not disagreeing w/you on much
    cheers

  24. i didnt know india had fake terroists attacks created and carried out by ppl who stand to benifit monetarilly and politically, thats neat!

  25. Does anybody else hear “corruption” as “corrupt shit?”

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